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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Ja, en bra ting med OTP er at den er open source og at vi har mulighet til selv å bestemme hva slags veger som skal inngå i den lovlige
grafen i vår implementasjon. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Men det er ikke nødvendigvis løsningen på vår utfordring her. Pr i dag er både E18 Sjølystveien og Rv 22 sør i Fet (to veier med unektelig
forskjellig karakteristikk for en fotgjenger…) definert som Trunk og foot = undefined, så vi løser ikke noe ved å sette denne typen veg som lovlig eller ulovlig
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Fra:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> kart-bounces@nuug.no [mailto:kart-bounces@nuug.no]
<b>På vegne av</b> Kristoffer Hagen<br>
<b>Sendt:</b> 10. oktober 2015 11:37<br>
<b>Til:</b> 'N/A N/A' <gazer2175@hotmail.com>; kart@nuug.no<br>
<b>Emne:</b> Re: [NUUG kart] Vilkår for highway=Trunk<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Hei<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">OTP har tydeligvis definert sin egen standard:<br>
<a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OpenTripPlanner#How_OpenTripPlanner_uses_OSM_tags_for_routing">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OpenTripPlanner#How_OpenTripPlanner_uses_OSM_tags_for_routing</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Jeg vil anta at det er mulig å overstyre disse verdiene for hvert prosjekt.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<a href="mailto:kart-bounces@nuug.no">kart-bounces@nuug.no</a> [<a href="mailto:kart-bounces@nuug.no">mailto:kart-bounces@nuug.no</a>]
<b>På vegne av</b> N/A N/A<br>
<b>Sendt:</b> fredag 9. oktober 2015 20.10<br>
<b>Til:</b> <a href="mailto:kart@nuug.no">kart@nuug.no</a><br>
<b>Emne:</b> Re: [NUUG kart] Vilkår for highway=Trunk<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Hei,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Det er råd å legge til foot=yes på alle riks og europavegar, men etter mi meining er dette noko OTP bør fikse. Om dei brukar OSM data så bør dei også handtere land spesifikke
restriksjonar. Dette er jo noko som andre navigasjons program må gjere for at ruting skal fungere.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Som ein kan lese her: </span><a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_tags_for_routing/Access-Restrictions"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_tags_for_routing/Access-Restrictions</span></a><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><br>
så er default access faktisk yes for foot på trunk.<br>
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mvh<br>
Jan T<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span><a href="mailto:kart-bounces@nuug.no"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">kart-bounces@nuug.no</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> <</span><a href="mailto:kart-bounces@nuug.no"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">kart-bounces@nuug.no</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">>
on behalf of Barslett Torbjørn <</span><a href="mailto:Torbjorn.Barslett@ruter.no"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Torbjorn.Barslett@ruter.no</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, October 9, 2015 4:59 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Kristoffer Hagen; </span><a href="mailto:kart@nuug.no"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">kart@nuug.no</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Kirkhus Lars<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [NUUG kart] Vilkår for highway=Trunk</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">
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<p style="background:white"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">OK. Jeg ser i hvert fall at for rv 22, så er footway = not specified. For at en Trunkway skal være godkjent av Open Trip Planner for gange, så må footway
være satt eksplisitt til yes. Og ifølge klassifikasjonstabellen burde jo denne verdien være satt slik. Spørsmålet blir da om vi kan endre denne verdien?</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>Sendt:</b> 9. oktober 2015 16:52<br>
<b>Til:</b> Barslett Torbjørn <</span><a href="mailto:Torbjorn.Barslett@ruter.no"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Torbjorn.Barslett@ruter.no</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">>;
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<b>Kopi:</b> Kirkhus Lars <</span><a href="mailto:Lars.Kirkhus@ruter.no"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Lars.Kirkhus@ruter.no</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">><br>
<b>Emne:</b> SV: [NUUG kart] Vilkår for highway=Trunk<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="background:white"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Veien er tagget riktig. Riksveier skal tagges som highway=Trunk.
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I følge standardverdiene for Norge skal det være tillatt å gå og sykle på veier med highway=Trunk dersom ikke annet er oppgitt for den enkelte vei:</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="background:white"><a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_tags_for_routing/Access-Restrictions#Norway" id="LPlnk271884"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#0563C1">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_tags_for_routing/Access-Restrictions#Norway</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span><a href="mailto:kart-bounces@nuug.no"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#0563C1">kart-bounces@nuug.no</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> [</span><a href="mailto:kart-bounces@nuug.no"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#0563C1">mailto:kart-bounces@nuug.no</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">]
<b>På vegne av</b> Barslett Torbjørn<br>
<b>Sendt:</b> fredag 9. oktober 2015 15.19<br>
<b>Til:</b> </span><a href="mailto:kart@nuug.no"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#0563C1">kart@nuug.no</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><br>
<b>Kopi:</b> Kirkhus Lars <</span><a href="mailto:Lars.Kirkhus@ruter.no"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#0563C1">Lars.Kirkhus@ruter.no</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">><br>
<b>Emne:</b> [NUUG kart] Vilkår for highway=Trunk<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="background:white"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Hei,<br>
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her i Ruter tester vi videre med OSM-data i Open Trip Planner. Gangveger mellom koordinatpunkter og stoppesteder for kollektivtrafikk beregnes i en graf som inneholder lovlige veglenker fra OSM. I denne grafbyggingen forbyr OTP å gå på veger av type Trunk road.
Primary road er helt ok. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="background:white"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Jeg ble nå klar over at dette er et problem, siden loggene våre sier at stoppesteder på en del strekninger ikke er mulig å nå, siden de ikke ligger på lovlig
gangnett. Når jeg så litt nærmere på dette, ble jeg klar over at rv 22 er trunk road helt fra Olavsgaard til E18 i Eidsberg. Langs mesteparten av strekningen er dette en vanlig bygdeveg uten alternative gangmuligheter.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="background:white"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Så: er dette basert på klassifisering fra Kartverket som stamveg?
</span><a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Highway:International_equivalence"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#0563C1">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Highway:International_equivalence</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">
OSMs definnisjon av Trunk road stemmer jo ikke helt overens med den reelle tilstanden på en del av stamvegene…<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Med vennlig hilsen<br>
<b>Torbjørn Barslett<br>
</b>Systemansvarlig avviks- og reiseinformasjonstjenester<br>
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</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Kollektivtrafikk for Oslo og Akershus</span><span style="color:#1F497D">
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</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Dronningens gate 40</span><span style="color:#1F497D">
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</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Postboks 1030 Sentrum</span><span style="color:#1F497D">
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</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">NO-0104 Oslo</span><span style="color:#1F497D">
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