[NUUG kart] Fjorder
Edward Welbourne
eddy at chaos.org.uk
Thu Jan 14 23:02:24 CET 2016
> Den 14. jan. 2016 21:10, Arne Johannessen skreiv:
>> This question is in my view fundamentally about whether the
>> characteristics of a fjord are distinct in a way that precludes
>> calling it a bay. The definition of a bay however is so general that
>> I'd say *every* fjord is a bay. Therefore natural=bay + bay=fjord
>> would seem logical to me.
Gnothgol svart:
> Eg ser også problemet med å finne ein god definisjon mellom fjord og bukt.
A bay may be (almost) arbitrarily broad [0]: a long stretch of coast
just barely curved with the middle inland relative to the ends may be
called a bay. Anglic's borrowing of "fjord" has it be a glacial
feature, definitely hemmed in on the sides by the land (usually "between
high cliffs" as Oxford suggests, but not necessarily) -
c.f. Slartibartfast's remarks on his work in HHGTTG. This does not
appear entirely unfaithful to the Norse usage. Any fjord is a bay; not
all bays are fjords.
[0] https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=14/54.4265/-0.5122&layers=Q
It's called "Robin Hood's Bay" (as is a village on it).
It is not a fjord. I'm sure one could find more extreme examples.
Thus fjord is a sub-type of bay, for all that it may be tricky to pin
down just exactly how to delineate what counts as a fjord.
>> Beklager svar på engelsk.
I like måte. Jeg er ikke sikker om jeg kan erklarer akkurat hva jeg
mener på norsk ...
Eddy.
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