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<div id="x_divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><i><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" color="#000000" style="font-size:11pt"><b>From:</b> nikita-noark-bounces@nuug.no <nikita-noark-bounces@nuug.no> on behalf of Petter Reinholdtsen <pere@hungry.com><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, May 23, 2017 14:47<br>
<b>To:</b> nikita-noark@nuug.no<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: Article about Documaster in todays DN.</font> </i>
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<div class="PlainText"><i>[Thomas Sødring]<br>
> I doubt they are.<br>
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Heh, so we are probably alone covering the web API segment of the<br>
market? :)<br>
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I think so. From the way I understand how things work in this segment,</div>
<div class="PlainText">I think the vendors will only invest <span style="font-size: 10pt;">time into updating Noark if the</span></div>
<div class="PlainText"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">customer really cry out. I think they will </span><span style="font-size: 10pt;">argue that upgrading costs</span></div>
<div class="PlainText"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">the customers more. Look at how many years it took Software Innovation</span></div>
<div class="PlainText"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">to go from temporary approval to final gives me this impression.</span></div>
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<i>> I don't think that is possible. The project has been forked. The<br>
> license clearly says AGPL. Even if I were to shut down my version, I<br>
> can't stop anybody else from continuing with theirs. Also I have no<br>
> commercial interest, so that helps.<br>
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So there are no copyright issues blocking further development. But<br>
there are others, if you were to leave, so it is a real risk that should<br>
be taken into account. :)</i><br>
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<div class="PlainText"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">I will leave eventually but so will you :) I have said I want to put this project</span><br>
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<div class="PlainText">behind me and move on with "normal" R&D. But my intention is to stay </div>
<div class="PlainText">around until we get approval. We also are using this for teaching so I'm </div>
<div class="PlainText">not going anywhere soon. I could be hit by a bus, but there's little we can</div>
<div class="PlainText">do about that. My goal has always been to make the project bigger than me.</div>
<div class="PlainText">It worked with dots and I think it will work here to.<br>
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>> Dimitar donated a copy dots to me and this can be found here:<br>
>><br>
>> <a href="https://github.com/tsodring/dots-noark5-core" id="LPlnk780899" previewremoved="true">
https://github.com/tsodring/dots-noark5-core</a><br>
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> What is the code license for this copy?<br>
><br>
> It says it there on the page I believe. But it's licensed under<br>
> LGPL. I have an email from Dimitar somewhere where he's OK that it can<br>
> be under APL.<br>
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<i>Right. So there are no copyright issues blocking futher development<br>
there either. That code is far as I can tell, the code from 2013 before<br>
the program was commercialized. I had a look at a later version from<br>
NXC, but did not get far before it was pulled. I learned back then that<br>
people on github can remove other peoples git repositories if they want<br>
to. My github repository disappeared without my concent. Learned not<br>
to trust github to grant me control over my own git repositories when it<br>
happend. :)<br>
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Anyway, I never managed to get the code to build, neither the one you<br>
pointed to or the NXC code, so I do not really know how well it work.<br>
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I guess what you saw was what I built edu-dots on. edu-dots is not built</div>
<div class="PlainText">on 2013 dots, but an upgraded version that NXC gave me. </div>
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<div class="PlainText">If you can delete <span style="font-size: 10pt;">other peoples repository, I suggest that people regularly</span></div>
<div class="PlainText"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">download a copy </span><span style="font-size: 10pt;">of nikita where the license clearly states that it is free. Do</span></div>
<div class="PlainText"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">not trust that </span><span style="font-size: 10pt;">the repo won't disappear. I always assumed you couldn't touch a fork!</span></div>
<div class="PlainText">My boss is also a proponent of openness so I cannot see us ever pulling the repo.</div>
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<div class="PlainText">Perhaps NUUG/ you could host a copy on gitlab. That way I cannot touch it!</div>
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<div class="PlainText"><i>> No, not really. It's based on ZK. The only thing that's reuseable is<br>
> the Java mail client integration and you have a much better approach<br>
> to handling that.<br>
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Perhaps some GUI design features we could learn from, if you have used<br>
it already in teaching?<br>
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Yes, I need to get the case-handling GUI finished for the 6th june. So I will</div>
<div class="PlainText">base it on the edu-dots gui. Or at least the parts of it that work well!<br>
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<i>Btw, regarding GUI, can you push the latest web changes to<br>
<URL: <a href="http://nikita.hioa.no:3000/" id="LPlnk140917" previewremoved="true">
http://nikita.hioa.no:3000/</a> >? </i></div>
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<div class="PlainText">done .. </div>
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<div class="PlainText"><i>Did not find you on IRC, so I<br>
poke here instead. :)<br>
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I've stayed away from IRC as I need to concentrate on correspondencepart </div>
<div class="PlainText">and it's variants. It has proved far more difficult than what I imagined it would</div>
<div class="PlainText">be to finish it. I'll hopefully push it today, but I doubt. So I'll push something </div>
<div class="PlainText">that works and fix the finer details. I don't believe it's clear from the </div>
<div class="PlainText">standard how it <span style="font-size: 10pt;">should be implemented so the mangelmelding I wrote covers</span></div>
<div class="PlainText"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">the approach I chose. We can discuss it once it's implemented, but it's hard to </span></div>
<div class="PlainText"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">implement a moving target :) </span></div>
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<div class="PlainText"> - Tom<br>
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