---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 09:04:30 +0200 From: Rune Nilsen rune@9ls1.com To: Thomas Gramstad thomas@ifi.uio.no, fiawol-liste@ifi.uio.no Subject: Re: Regel/standard for sortering av thorn?
On Wed, 18 Jun 2003 18:22:00 +0200 (MEST), Thomas Gramstad thomas@ifi.uio.no wrote:
Ut fra prinsippet "Fandom vet alt":
Er det noen som vet om 'ð' skal sorteres som en bokstav, eller som et spesialtegn, når den forekommer i en norsk digitalisert tekst? Finnes det noen standard som dokumenterer dette?
Litt googling, og denne dukket opp:
http://www.evertype.com/standards/wynnyogh/thorn.html
Ser ut som 3.1.2 har flest norske referanser:
3.1.1 ÞORN is written, and is sorted as a separate letter after Z. This is standard Icelandic practice. 3.1.2 ÞORN is written, and is sorted as a separate letter after T and before U. This is the usual Old English practice. 2.ONor.1961. Iversen, Ragnvald. 1961. Norrøn gammatikk. Oslo: H. Aschehoug & Co. 2.ONor.1963. Heggsted, Leiv. 1963. Gamalnorsk ordbog med nynorsk tyding. Oslo: Det Norske Samlaget.
3.1.3 ÞORN is written, and is sorted as a separate letter within the letter T, after TH and before TI. This is rare, but readable. 3.1.4. ÞORN is written, and is sorted mixed with TH. This is a rare practice and is difficult to read. We recommend that it be avoided. It causes a kind of visual seasickness. Note that several national standards follow this at present, however. 4.NDan.1980. Dansk Standard DS 377 1.5. ["Faerøsk ð ordnes som d. Islandsk ð ordnes som d, þ ordnes som th."] 4.Swed.1982. Svensk Standard 03 81 04
3.1.5 ÞORN is written, and is sorted mixed with P. This is a nonce practice, designed to help people find glyphs they have never seen before. 3.1.6 ÞORN is written as Y, and is sorted as Y. The classic example of this practice is writing <Ye olde shoppe> for <Þe olde shoppe>. Only one work we have seen discusses the problem at all; actually it does not sort ÞORN as Y.